There has been a lot of fuss about this lately. Some say it’s crazy, some say it’s unbelievable. Some say it’s to the detriment to those who live in the rural areas. Some claims that turning the learning medium to English for Maths and Science will not make the students better in English. Well I have this simple comment to make. “You can always take the horse to the water, but you cannot force it to drink it” The same goes to learning English or any types of learnings. You can introduce all sophisticated learning methods and give all the best facilities to the students, but if the attitude of the individual students is not right or have a rather negative or dimmed view towards learning Maths and Science in English, the students will never progress or improve on their English. But here are the cold hard facts:
- It will be easier to pick up English if you use it more often or more exposed to it
- It will be easier to communicate technically and absorb latest cutting edge science and maths discoveries if you study the subject in the language.
- No more stupid English to Malay translation such as from BUDGET jadi BAJET..What’s the purpose of this? Ini ke orang yang sayang bahasa? I am not sure if anyone of us can remember the real Malay word for BUDGET now that the word BAJET has been used quiet infectiously.
- The rural students can learn English from TV and English story books (Hey I just checked that Mills & Boons novels are selling at RM4.00 apiece for 300-page novel)..Cuma nak tak nak jea.. semuanya bermula pada diri sendiri..
- While GMP says “by learning Maths and Science will not improve one’s grasp of these two subjects”, I guess I should pose a reverse question back to him..”Do you think by learning Maths and Science in Malay will improve one’s grasp in the subject then?” It may or may not improve, but what it will do for sure is to get our students ahead in terms of understanding the subject in a wider context. Don’t you think it’s easier to study the subject through the internet (majority of which are in English) beyond the textbook now that you know the technical terms in English?” I would say a resounding yes!
Fikir-fikirkanlah…
at 12:43 pm
ni kalo ada cikgu inggeris juin sk ni, mau dia pengsan tenguk bahasa2 yg kita tulis kat sini…sowy sir, we just enjoying ourselves..!!!
at 12:50 pm
say correct-correct… bestla ayat tu!!
ajak dak anum join syok ni…
at 1:51 pm
saz & Chee : x de makne nk amik hati pun bkn anak aku pun..lagipun bkn x tau korang gurau..
Lagipun mmg la dia yg sms cenggitu. Ada ht nak ugut org, ayat pun kelam kabut.Yg korang meleret2 tu dh x de kena mengena dgn Lissa la..
No worries.
at 2:05 pm
Lissa:”ayat kelang kabut”dia tak scolla habi ke,smpai susun ayat pun tak tull??..
at 2:13 pm
kui3….sini pon ade gak korang….
at 2:17 pm
Ontahla_siri1:sape yang dimaksuddkan nie?
at 2:41 pm
kak lissa : ekekek…mmg la betul..hehehehee
ontahla : kat mane2 je kitorang ni ade..hehehee….cume kat umah ontah je kami xde..lalalaaaaa
at 2:47 pm
WTF: U english the bestest why la talking like this? Dangerous u know if u said correct-correct. Scared some people spell korek-korek spashly those English the little-little understand. Korek..very the double meaning.
Chee: U like me? Ah, I like u too..in fact, I like you very deep. Bcareful when you cross the road to buying kismis, who knowlah kan.. later got mutton crossing the road..eskiden pulak.
at 2:56 pm
Tu dia cikgu bahasa inggeris kita..
caya la Saz..power gile ayat2 Saz,mengalahkan “ayat-ayat Cinta”..hahaha..
Chee:ye kan chee,kami kat mane2 pun ade..
at 3:13 pm
kak Nur : bkn mak kuntum tapi anak dia yg sms cenggitu.. batu jer form 5..
at 3:20 pm
Rinoa: Ko jgn ajak geng deran datang sini..pening kepala aku noa.
at 3:27 pm
Hahahaha..Nowonder la,ayat2 tak betul..anak msh makn hingus pun,dah ajaq benda tak betul..rosak..bab otak dia pun tak betul juga..hikhikhik..
at 3:28 pm
kak nuranie:”kelam kabut la..bukan kelang kabut…huhuhu…mane2 pon ade ke?heheheh..agak2 le jugak kak nur ni….takkan dalam tolet gent’s pon ade gak….weeeeeee~~~~~
at 3:30 pm
Mak Kuntum dia ya rosak ya Lissa..otak tak betul.nak kena Tukul..supaya jadi betull..hahaha
at 3:32 pm
saz : pening pale chee menengok nyeer…wakaakaka…..
ok, i must careful really-really…nyahahaa…
kak nur : ape yg penting…kejesama…
kak lissa : budak2 zaman skarang darjah 5 pon da pandai ugut2 org…
at 3:41 pm
Ontahla_siri1:What ever la ejaann..janji Nur faham..kuwang-kuwang-kuwang..adeeee…
Chee:betul tu chee,kerjasama.sepakat membawa berkat..
at 3:50 pm
adess….kelam dengan kelang len maksud ler..huhuhu…
at 3:59 pm
Chee: Kalau geng anum ‘deran’ tu masuk..adoi saliha..Saz lari marathon la jawabnya..tak larat nak layan spelling dia..tak hengat dunia..pinau bijik mata satu hal..nak memahami ayat2 spastik dia satu hal..
at 4:02 pm
geli ati nak bace korg type…
saz kasi pening pale dia la plak…
mcm ni la.. bahasa melayu di inggeriskan…
at 4:20 pm
aduhaii…jgn gado pasl kelang ke kelam k…ejaan kelam klu sebtu lelaju jd ape nak2 murid sume…kelang kabut….wakkakaaaa..klu kelantan plak..jadik kelee kabuk…gitu gak??
saz : tu lagik la pening nak megadap..hahaaa…deran suke maran..pe yg aku meraban ni haa….
at 4:22 pm
Explain to me Ontahla,blh?
Saz:Berapa kilometer mo la ekk??kena sediakan ambulance tu,takut pengsan pulak..air batu sebaldi,cukup ke chee tuk Saz klu pengsan??
at 4:38 pm
kui3….
kak nuranie:rileks arr cam labucheee…huhuhu
..nak xplain what?sendiri mau hengat ler…adeiiiii
cam perang siber jek….
at 4:57 pm
sabaw2…kengkawan sumee….jgn perang siberr…nyahaha…bwk bertendang..paling x puas ati pon gigit je keyboard tu haa..puehh hatii..
at 5:07 pm
Lari marathon 1km dah ler..hehe..
at 5:16 pm
at 8:14 pm
ko org pekan leh la ckp banyak pasal belajo science/math in english.
camana bebudak kampung yg agak berkemampuan, tapi lemah dlm english, langsung subject math/science die pun lingkup. La ni ramai professional melayu( dari kampung2) pasal tindakan kerajaan jadikan bahasa melayu perantaraan utama sejak 70′s lagi.nampaknya lepaih nie bebudak kampung balik ketinggalan lah.
at 9:01 pm
faghie..boleh belajar dari TV..kalau ke pekan tu cuba-cubalah beli buku bahasa Inggeri yang semakin murah..
Pihak sekolah bolehlah mintak pihak NSTP dermakan surat2khabar lama yang masih boleh digunakan untuk belajar bahasa inggeris..
Please remember, in big companies, if you don’t speak fluent english, you will not be accepted..even though your CGPA is 3.60 something..
at 4:11 am
“Please remember, in big companies, if you don’t speak fluent english, you will not be accepted..even though your CGPA is 3.60 something.. ”
Of course, it’s bloody embarrassing that majority top students of local unis fail miserably when it comes to speaking fluently in english. I don’t understand why people oppose to this whole ‘teaching in english’. it’s free for goodness’s sakes, embrace it, love it. Do you really want your children to be left behind as he/she grows up? No? Then continue with it then. It’s a language, people overseas send their children to expensive classes to improve their usage of whatever language. And here we are bickering on a stupid thing. Open up your mind, people!
The thing is, it’s free, that’s a definite plus. So just accept the fact and embrace it. Children are intelligent little creatures, they adjust real fast to new environments (if you’re scared that your children might not be able to cope with the ‘burden’), so just let it be. Think about their future. Do you want them to seriously be mocked on for failing to speak correct english sentences? The medium used in unis is english so might as well start from early stage.
My two cents. Cheers.
Oh, referring to faghie, my parents were orang hulu or kampung whatever but during their time the medium used in their school was english and they survived thru it. i’m proud to have them as they can speak english very well, considering the fact that they WERE brought up in kampung and all.
at 9:04 am
“Please remember, in big companies, if you don’t speak fluent english, you will not be accepted..even though your CGPA is 3.60 something..”
Yes..i’m agree with this statement….not only in a big companies but all kind of jobs either in big companies or not..english is the most important..
I’m also not fluent in english but until now i’m still keep trying to learn…bila difikirkan balik…waaaa menyesal tak belajar dr awal..so galakkan anak2 melayu skrg ni utk belajar english tp BUKAN broken english..
at 9:30 am
dlm hal ni gov sndr harus memainkan peranan mcm mane nak tingkatkn prestasi dak2 skrg dlm penggunaan BI.. ya.. x semua ibu bapa mampu nak hntr anak2 ke sek mahal tuk bljr bahasa mcm parent kat overseas.. parent mana yg taknak anak dia pandai??? tp kemampuan tak ckup… kalau ade saluran yg mggalakkn anak2 skrg bljr bahasa kan bagus.. contohnya.. sek buat tuisyen kelas bhsa.. bahasa mandarin, india, dan juga english… paling kurang pon setiap pljr di kenekan byrn rm5 sbln.. kesedaran pun dtgnya dr budak2 tu sndr.. kalau dia nak bljr dia sndr akan rajin pergi ke kelas tu… pilih kelas mane yg dorg nak pergi..
org2 yg berjaya skrg ni pun merata dtg x kire dr kg atau bndr.. sbb dgn kesedaran.. tak guna juga kalo sains dan math dlm BI tp ade dak2 yg xnk bljr… bgsnya setiap sek wat tuisyen kelas bahasa… sape ade kesedaran dan nak bljr dia akan pergi sndr.. jd tak akan buang masa dan duit kalau itu kehendak budak2 tu sndr…
sekadar pendapat..
at 9:30 am
huahuaaaa……betull…menyesal x blaja rerajen dulu..kan skarang x pandai cakap bi..muahahaa…..tulun …..tulunn…alhamdulillah,company chee skang ni nak kate besar x besar la,nak kate kecik da byk group of companies…bos pon byk bg support spy chee improve lagik dlm english….salah dorang x gelakkan tp baiki kan…kalau ayat english panjang berjela pon die tulun terangkan…dan kalu nak wat ayat2 english yg gile babas pon die tolong karangkan….naseb baek kengkawan kat opis ni slalu tulun chee….
at 9:38 am
Salam & pagi sumer..
Pagi ni sakit perut ler pulak tersilap mkn semalam..
Mana kwn2 Sk ?
at 10:11 am
salam…& pgi kak lissa
waahh..chee ade ni x pasan pon…
at 10:32 am
Chee :- betul tu…kebanyakkan org expecially yg sama tmpt keja ngan kite..mcm bos…dia org takkan gelakkan..dia org akan bantu…tu yg best…tmpt erz keja ni pun…dulu MD dia Taiwan..english mmg worst..teruk gila…ada ka MD tak reti english..huhu..kludia send email to all his subordinate…diaorg akan tertanya sendiri “apa ni bos aku tulis ni”..dia org pening…hehe..tp MD tu ttp gak hentam english ikut suka dia..at last…dia fluent terus english…means usaha dia tak sia2….kekadang kita malu nk ckp coz tak pandai…nk ckp ngan anak2 pn malu..dh tak reti satg org ketawa kan pulak…tp tak per..ckp jer lama2 blh gak..mcm erz pn tak reti sgt..malu gak mula2..pastu ada mmber ni foreigner..melayu langsung tak tau..tp bila bercampur ngan dia…mau tak mau terpaksa ckp..lama2 blh la walaupun tak expert..tp yg best tu..klu dh habis fikir sgt2..tak tau gak maksud ayat yg nk bgtau kt dia..erz nnti kata “sorry..i dont know how to translate from malay words to english..”..hehe..then kami ama2 gelak..huhu
at 10:39 am
Practise make perfect. Thats the key. Rajin2 baca NST and The Star. Ok la lelama.
Chee : comment Chee kuar lepas comment akak. Tu yg x pasan tu.. Syoli ek?
at 10:57 am
pagi yang gelap kini suda terang….gud moning my dear frennsss………:)
at 12:03 pm
bestnye esok & Sunday x kerja.. leh mengecat bilik.. huhu….
at 12:21 pm
I wish the MOE does extensive study/research/survey before implementing drastic changes in the education system. For whatever changes they make, the effects carry a direct bearing on the students. My pity and concern lies mosty for the rural students due to their limited means. All said, being a Malaysian, I treasure my own language, but English is still a useful language to master.
at 1:15 pm
adeiii..nasib bek sy da bis blaja..tak la kelang kabut eh kelam kabut hikhikhik…ape la MOE ni…tak kaji betul2 b4 wat keputusan..adess..yg naya adik2 sy ni isk..isk…
at 1:53 pm
“My pity and concern lies mosty for the rural students due to their limited means”
Why just rural students? Rural students even if they teach and guide from the beginning of primary school will quickly catch up with what they learn. Even those living in the cities, if they’re lazy, they can never master anything.
Tak naye manenye, it’s a skill, you should think of it as an advantage for their own future’s sakes. Dari awal blaja, time masuk uni tak malu nk diri kt depan buat presentation pun tak reti nk buat correct sentences… I’m including myself in it as I still have a lot to learn myself. School kids are very lucky as they have teachers to guide them but later on when they go to university/colleges, the lecturers won’t care less or won’t give a crap whether they can speak/write english without grammatical errors. It’s a challenge, yes. But sampai bile tak nak improve?
They’ve already given the students a platform, teachers to teach/guide them. All they’ve to do is just study and learn. Tak susah mane pun. Physics, chem, bio in malay pun susah je. Rase cam bodoh je time masuk pre-uni since they taught everything in english wherelse during my high school they taught everything in malay (Sadly they implemented the wholen maths/science in english right after I left high school). Since ALL local unis use English as medium of teaching, unless you plan to not further your studies to any tertiary institution, you have no choice but to deal with english sooner or later.
at 2:05 pm
Lissa:Kita cat bilik sesama ekk..hehe..
at 2:09 pm
cheeeee….jom lepak kat PD…huhuhuh
at 2:17 pm
erz : tu la maslahnye..klu de org call..chee sempat ckp hold on..wakakakakaa…pastu pas kat org laen..hahahahaaa…klaka la…skng ni chee stil belaja la kan sebab ari2 dengar org cakap kan..insyaallah usaha tangga kejayaan..
kak lissa : hauahauaa…xpe la kak..chee x keshaaa….bilik baby ke kak??eii..besshnyeee….warne pink arrr…
ontahla : oitt selambe je ajak org lepak pd…jum ahhh…cheee pong boring neh..tp ekau kono datang umah den cakap ngan mak den bulehh??
at 3:08 pm
Tak kira lah dok kampung ke, pekan ker..soalnya nak seribu daya..tak nak seribu dalih..memang ah kalau nak diikutkan advantage budak pekan lebih sket tapi gov pun tak ler tak amik port. Dorang pun support..tu yg ada memacam program..so terpulang pd kita sama ada nak memanfaatkannya atau tidak. Yg penting cuba..ni lum cuba dah ckp tak terer..mmg ah..Satu lagi org selalu kata local grad tak reti speaking..tapi bila dgr local grad speaking..tergezut beruk lah dorang..hello, tgk jugaklah uni mana. In general, kalau budak Masscomm S.Alam tak reti speaking, mmg sohehlah nak kena..kena tiau. Kat tempat Saz ni, BM dah jadi 2nd language. Advertising, standard chartered ah.. Malays brapa kerat jer. Suma job requisition, presentation, email apa jadah suma..hatta bertekak pasal keje skalipun all in English. Briefing utk iklan BM pun in english. Yg bagusnya, along the way you can improve your English. Yg tak bestnya, letih bila nak buat back translation BM-English pasal client tak paham BM. Dua kali keje tu..adoih..
at 3:48 pm
Masalah kita di sini bukan budak kampung atau budak bandar. Pakcik aku pak guard dibesarkan kat kampung pun boleh ckp English lg terer dari budak2 bandar tau. Semua nie alasan je untuk memesongkan perhatian kita terhadap ekonomi negara yg kian merudum. Kalau ye pun budak kampung akan tertinggal kalau tukar jadi English, jgn lupa jugak, takkan budak2 bandar nak menghentikan kemajuan diorang pasal kesian kat budak2 kampung? Wahai budak2 kampung(termasuk aku) jangan la dok main2 moto lagi. Jom la blaja English. Taknak takpe, blaja la BM dulu….esok2 hang masuk tempat keje, hang tgk la sendiri taraf English hang yg hina tue. Mmg la bos tak gelak kalau tak tau english. Sebab mmg tak lawak pun. Cuma bos akan rasa pekerja dia nie hampeh. Stakat buat minit mesyuarat dlm English pun hancus.
BTW, BM skang pun dah hancus dengan bahasa rojak sms. Tgk la tulisan aku nie sendiri…kahkahkah…..
at 9:12 pm
Apa la yg complicated sgt ni….Sudah termaktub didlm perlmbagaan bahawa bahasa pnghntr utama kita ialah BM …dan merupakan bahasa kebangsaan……kenapa kita nk gdh2 n brtekak pasal ni….Adkh ngra kita akn menjadi maju sekiranya kita mgunakn bahasa inggeris sebagai bahasa pnghntr utama….jawapannya, tepuk dada tanya selera……..pokok pangkalnya adlh diri kita sendiri…Kenapa kita nk agung2 kn sangat bahasa penjajah 2….mmg x dpat dinafikn bhwa dewasa ini, klu kita x menguasai bi kita akan ktngalan… but ini adlah soal masyarkt tu sndiri…itul adlh bhsa ptuturn utama kita seharian!!!!Adakah semua pnduduk di Malaysia bertutr dlm BI di dlm kehidupan seharian????Secara logiknya mana lebih mudah jika kita bljr S& M di dlm kedua2 bhsa ini??Kenapa negara Jepun blh menjadi negara yg temaju di dunia.Ini kerana setiap rakyat mereka mempunyai nilai dn semangat jati diri yg tinggi….Persoalannya knapa kita tidak blh…Jlan penyelesaian yg terbaik adalh meningktkn kualiti modal insan itu sndiri dan ianya memerlukn kerjasama semua phak….S&M di dlm BI bkanlh jln yg terbaik…
Ledakan maklumat melalui teknologi maklumat menyaksikan bahasa Inggeris (BI) kembali beraksi di gelanggang antarabangsa. Bersandarkan alasan globalisasi, bahasa Inggeris kembali mendominasi dunia. BI dikenali sebagai bahasa global. Persoalannya sekarang adakah BI sebagai bahasa global maka ia terus sesuai menjadi bahasa penghantar bagi setiap bahasa di dunia?Penerapan dasar baru (meskipun menyalahi akta Dasar Pelajaran Kebangsaan) menyaksikan penggunaan BI dalam mata pelajaran S&M. Penerapan ini boleh dilihat dari 3 perspektif iaitu politik, pendidikan dan linguistik. Dari ketiga-tiga perspektif ini akan terhasil satu gambaran jelas ke mana arah harus dibawa sistem pendidikan dan bahasa Melayu itu sendiri.(Prof. Dr. Nor Hashimah Jalaluddin)
Dari perbincangan di atas boleh dikatakan kesan jangka pendek dan panjang ini bukan sahaja menimbulkan masalah kepada pelajar, guru dan institusi pengajian tinggi malah jangka panjangnya memberi kesan yang amat mengerikan pada pembinaan jati diri dan kesatubangsaan. Pengalaman 13 Mei sepatutnya dikenang sehingga hari ini kian dilupakan. Pengunduran balik kepada dasar pendidikan zaman penjajah sebenarnya mengundang masalah jurang kaum yang pernah berlaku satu ketika dulu.(Prof. Dr. Nor Hashimah Jalaluddin)
Mungkin ada orang berkata BI itu maha penting dan harus menggantikan BM. Orang itu harus bertanya kembali kepada dirinya adakah dia hanya memikirkan kepompong dirinya sahaja atau pernahkah orang itu bertanyakan dalam konteks yang lebih luas. Apa yang kita mahu pelajar luar Bandar menikmati kualiti ilmu yang setara dengan pelajar Bandar yang ternyatanya memang tidak berlaku. Adalah lebih baik jika kita mengamalkan ‘BM bahasa dijunjung dan BI bahasa dikendung bagi memastikan apa yang dikejar dapat dan yang dikendong terselamat’.(Prof. Dr. Nor Hashimah Jalaluddin)
at 10:52 pm
nuranie, skrg saya ada 4 anak. 8,7,6 dan 4 thn. hubby suruh berhenti sbb dia tak nak maid jaga anak. so, saya skrg jadi driver merangkap bibik la ( pinjam kata2 anak ). tp seronok juga, sbb takperlu tension fikir pasal kerja dan lbh penting boleh tgk anak membesar depan mata.
at 10:00 am
Salam & morning to all.
at 10:07 am
salam kak lissa..npe komputer chee xleh nak tgk side bar??eii bengangnyer…..xtau sape komen…ape komen…sume la…eii boring laaaa….fayzzz…help meeeeee……
at 10:07 am
Salam juga utk semua..
Moga sihat di pagi yang ceria ..
Apa khbar Lissa,Chee,Saz,kak La,Kak HA,kak siti dan semua?..